ALTERNATIVE HISTORY / 1964/65 / 14 CLUBS

La Liga 1964/65.
Without the usual suspects.

Valencia win our alternative 1964/65 La Liga on 37 points from 26 matches. Atlético Madrid follow on 37 points. It's level on points at the top; goal difference and goals scored settle our recalculated order.

Yes, the two biggest clubs are very good at football. We know. For this table, we've removed every match involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona. The remaining fixtures keep their actual scores. In our full-league calculation they were 4th, rather than first.

Our championValencia
Points37
Games counted182
Points for a win2
THE USURPER LEAGUE

The 1964/65 table, without Madrid or Barça

Every match against either excluded club has been removed, including its points, goals and games played.

#ClubPWDLGDPts
1Valencia261736+2937
2Atlético Madrid261736+2937
3Real Zaragoza261718+2235
4Córdoba CF261439+831
5Athletic Club261349030
6Elche2613112-427
7UD Las Palmas2610610+226
8Espanyol2612014+124
9Sevilla FC2610412-724
10Real Murcia CF265138-823
11Levante267514-1219
12Real Betis266614-1018
13Real Oviedo266614-2518
14Deportivo La Coruña266317-2515
FOR COMPARISON

What changed?

With every club present, Real Madrid lead our all-club calculation. Without the two excluded clubs, Valencia finish first. Nobody has been awarded invented wins or imaginary goals.

HOW WE COUNTED

The rules. Such as they are.

58 matches involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona were removed. Victories were worth 2 points under the rules of 1964/65. Remaining clubs keep their recorded results.

See the all-club calculation (for comparison)
#ClubPWDLGDPts
1Real Madrid302154+4647
2Atlético Madrid302037+3143
3Real Zaragoza301929+2340
4Valencia301749+2238
5Córdoba CF3016311+235
6FC Barcelona3014412+1832
7Athletic Club3013611-532
8Elche3014313-531
9UD Las Palmas3011712-729
10Sevilla FC3011415-1226
11Espanyol3012117-225
12Real Betis308715-1223
13Real Murcia CF3051312-2123
14Levante308517-1421
15Real Oviedo307617-3220
16Deportivo La Coruña306321-3215

A note about the numbers

These are independent recalculations, not official LaLiga standings. Positions are ordered by points, goal difference and goals scored. Historic points deductions and the league's official head-to-head tiebreakers aren't recreated, so some rankings may differ from the official record.

Underlying match results: Jack-Tilley/es-espana (CC0 archive). Each match involving Madrid or Barça is excluded in full. Season-specific gaps and formats are noted where relevant.

Feel like arguing about the result? Good. That's rather the point.