La Liga 1984/85.
Without the usual suspects.
Atlético Madrid win our alternative 1984/85 La Liga on 40 points from 30 matches. Sporting Gijón follow on 38 points. That's a 2-point lead over second place. The scores are real. The trophy, regrettably, is not.
Yes, the two biggest clubs are very good at football. We know. For this table, we've removed every match involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona. The remaining fixtures keep their actual scores. In our full-league calculation they were 2nd, rather than first.
The 1984/85 table, without Madrid or Barça
Every match against either excluded club has been removed, including its points, goals and games played.
| # | Club | P | W | D | L | GD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Atlético Madrid | 30 | 15 | 10 | 5 | +21 | 40 |
| 2 | Sporting Gijón | 30 | 13 | 12 | 5 | +13 | 38 |
| 3 | Athletic Club | 30 | 12 | 12 | 6 | +12 | 36 |
| 4 | Osasuna | 30 | 12 | 8 | 10 | +3 | 32 |
| 5 | Real Sociedad | 30 | 11 | 9 | 10 | +11 | 31 |
| 6 | Real Zaragoza | 30 | 10 | 11 | 9 | +7 | 31 |
| 7 | Espanyol | 30 | 10 | 11 | 9 | -2 | 31 |
| 8 | Valencia | 30 | 8 | 14 | 8 | +6 | 30 |
| 9 | Racing Santander | 30 | 10 | 10 | 10 | -2 | 30 |
| 10 | Real Valladolid | 30 | 7 | 15 | 8 | -1 | 29 |
| 11 | Real Betis | 30 | 10 | 8 | 12 | -3 | 28 |
| 12 | Málaga | 30 | 7 | 13 | 10 | -11 | 27 |
| 13 | Sevilla FC | 30 | 8 | 10 | 12 | -12 | 26 |
| 14 | Elche | 30 | 6 | 13 | 11 | -9 | 25 |
| 15 | Hércules CF | 30 | 7 | 11 | 12 | -17 | 25 |
| 16 | Real Murcia CF | 30 | 6 | 9 | 15 | -16 | 21 |
What changed?
With every club present, FC Barcelona lead our all-club calculation. Without the two excluded clubs, Atlético Madrid finish first. Nobody has been awarded invented wins or imaginary goals.
The rules. Such as they are.
66 matches involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona were removed. Victories were worth 2 points under the rules of 1984/85. Remaining clubs keep their recorded results.
See the all-club calculation (for comparison)
| # | Club | P | W | D | L | GD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | FC Barcelona | 34 | 21 | 11 | 2 | +44 | 53 |
| 2 | Atlético Madrid | 34 | 16 | 11 | 7 | +23 | 43 |
| 3 | Athletic Club | 34 | 13 | 15 | 6 | +13 | 41 |
| 4 | Sporting Gijón | 34 | 13 | 15 | 6 | +11 | 41 |
| 5 | Real Madrid | 34 | 13 | 10 | 11 | +10 | 36 |
| 6 | Real Sociedad | 34 | 11 | 12 | 11 | +8 | 34 |
| 7 | Osasuna | 34 | 13 | 8 | 13 | 0 | 34 |
| 8 | Espanyol | 34 | 11 | 12 | 11 | -4 | 34 |
| 9 | Valencia | 34 | 9 | 15 | 10 | +3 | 33 |
| 10 | Real Zaragoza | 34 | 11 | 11 | 12 | 0 | 33 |
| 11 | Racing Santander | 34 | 10 | 12 | 12 | -7 | 32 |
| 12 | Sevilla FC | 34 | 10 | 11 | 13 | -12 | 31 |
| 13 | Real Valladolid | 34 | 7 | 16 | 11 | -6 | 30 |
| 14 | Real Betis | 34 | 11 | 8 | 15 | -6 | 30 |
| 15 | Hércules CF | 34 | 9 | 12 | 13 | -17 | 30 |
| 16 | Málaga | 34 | 7 | 15 | 12 | -13 | 29 |
| 17 | Elche | 34 | 6 | 14 | 14 | -19 | 26 |
| 18 | Real Murcia CF | 34 | 6 | 10 | 18 | -28 | 22 |
A note about the numbers
These are independent recalculations, not official LaLiga standings. Positions are ordered by points, goal difference and goals scored. Historic points deductions and the league's official head-to-head tiebreakers aren't recreated, so some rankings may differ from the official record.
Underlying match results: Jack-Tilley/es-espana (CC0 archive). Each match involving Madrid or Barça is excluded in full. Season-specific gaps and formats are noted where relevant.
Feel like arguing about the result? Good. That's rather the point.