La Liga 2024/25.
Without the usual suspects.
Atlético Madrid win our alternative 2024/25 La Liga on 71 points from 34 matches. Athletic Club follow on 67 points. That's a 4-point lead over second place. The scores are real. The trophy, regrettably, is not.
Yes, the two biggest clubs are very good at football. We know. For this table, we've removed every match involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona. The remaining fixtures keep their actual scores. In our full-league calculation they were 3rd, rather than first.
The 2024/25 table, without Madrid or Barça
Every match against either excluded club has been removed, including its points, goals and games played.
| # | Club | P | W | D | L | GD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Atlético Madrid | 34 | 21 | 8 | 5 | +39 | 71 |
| 2 | Athletic Club | 34 | 18 | 13 | 3 | +29 | 67 |
| 3 | Villarreal | 34 | 19 | 10 | 5 | +26 | 67 |
| 4 | Real Betis | 34 | 15 | 10 | 9 | +8 | 55 |
| 5 | Celta Vigo | 34 | 16 | 6 | 12 | +5 | 54 |
| 6 | Rayo Vallecano | 34 | 13 | 12 | 9 | -1 | 51 |
| 7 | Osasuna | 34 | 11 | 15 | 8 | +1 | 48 |
| 8 | RCD Mallorca | 34 | 13 | 8 | 13 | -3 | 47 |
| 9 | Valencia | 34 | 10 | 13 | 11 | -3 | 43 |
| 10 | Real Sociedad | 34 | 12 | 7 | 15 | -4 | 43 |
| 11 | Alavés | 34 | 10 | 12 | 12 | -4 | 42 |
| 12 | Getafe | 34 | 11 | 8 | 15 | -1 | 41 |
| 13 | Sevilla FC | 34 | 10 | 11 | 13 | -2 | 41 |
| 14 | Girona FC | 34 | 11 | 8 | 15 | -5 | 41 |
| 15 | Espanyol | 34 | 10 | 9 | 15 | -5 | 39 |
| 16 | CD Leganés | 34 | 8 | 13 | 13 | -13 | 37 |
| 17 | UD Las Palmas | 34 | 7 | 7 | 20 | -17 | 28 |
| 18 | Real Valladolid | 34 | 4 | 4 | 26 | -50 | 16 |
What changed?
With every club present, FC Barcelona lead our all-club calculation. Without the two excluded clubs, Atlético Madrid finish first. Nobody has been awarded invented wins or imaginary goals.
The rules. Such as they are.
74 matches involving Real Madrid or FC Barcelona were removed. Victories were worth 3 points under the rules of 2024/25. Remaining clubs keep their recorded results.
See the all-club calculation (for comparison)
| # | Club | P | W | D | L | GD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | FC Barcelona | 38 | 28 | 4 | 6 | +63 | 88 |
| 2 | Real Madrid | 38 | 26 | 6 | 6 | +40 | 84 |
| 3 | Atlético Madrid | 38 | 22 | 10 | 6 | +38 | 76 |
| 4 | Athletic Club | 38 | 19 | 13 | 6 | +25 | 70 |
| 5 | Villarreal | 38 | 20 | 10 | 8 | +20 | 70 |
| 6 | Real Betis | 38 | 16 | 12 | 10 | +7 | 60 |
| 7 | Celta Vigo | 38 | 16 | 7 | 15 | +2 | 55 |
| 8 | Osasuna | 38 | 12 | 16 | 10 | -4 | 52 |
| 9 | Rayo Vallecano | 38 | 13 | 13 | 12 | -4 | 52 |
| 10 | RCD Mallorca | 38 | 13 | 9 | 16 | -9 | 48 |
| 11 | Valencia | 38 | 11 | 13 | 14 | -10 | 46 |
| 12 | Real Sociedad | 38 | 13 | 7 | 18 | -11 | 46 |
| 13 | Getafe | 38 | 11 | 9 | 18 | -5 | 42 |
| 14 | Alavés | 38 | 10 | 12 | 16 | -10 | 42 |
| 15 | Espanyol | 38 | 11 | 9 | 18 | -11 | 42 |
| 16 | Sevilla FC | 38 | 10 | 11 | 17 | -13 | 41 |
| 17 | Girona FC | 38 | 11 | 8 | 19 | -16 | 41 |
| 18 | CD Leganés | 38 | 9 | 13 | 16 | -17 | 40 |
| 19 | UD Las Palmas | 38 | 8 | 8 | 22 | -21 | 32 |
| 20 | Real Valladolid | 38 | 4 | 4 | 30 | -64 | 16 |
A note about the numbers
These are independent recalculations, not official LaLiga standings. Positions are ordered by points, goal difference and goals scored. Historic points deductions and the league's official head-to-head tiebreakers aren't recreated, so some rankings may differ from the official record.
Underlying match results: openfootball/football.json (CC0 archive). Each match involving Madrid or Barça is excluded in full. Season-specific gaps and formats are noted where relevant.
Feel like arguing about the result? Good. That's rather the point.